Friday, January 18, 2008

Why Mike Huckabee Scares the Hell out of Me

Disclaimer; To my long term regular readers, to my recent regular readers and to anyone who came upon this blog or post through a search engine. I am not some Janie-come-lately broad who is just starting to follow the '08 Primary. I have been following this election cycle with baited breath for almost a year. I am not someone who just woke up and said "gee I think I will go negative on Mike Huckabee." While I do support Fred Thompson, I am not going negative on Huck just to lift up Fred Thompson. I started this blog as a Huckabee supporter. I did not start out blogging about Elvis, sewing, Rockabilly music or vintage cars and merely had Mike Huckabee buttons off to the side. Yes, a portion of my posts did have nothing to do with Mike Huckabee. I blogged my fingers off for Mike Huckabee, even back when there was hardly any news about Mike Huckabee. Not only did I blog for Mike Huckabee I took a 22 hour long bus ride, each way, from Michigan to the Iowa Straw Poll in August. In fact I even made a felt "I Like Mike" travel bag to take on the trip, when I simply could have used my duffle bag. But back then I was gung-ho for Huckabee. Nothing anyone could have said would have changed my opinion of him. Now things are different. And it just took some personal issues in Michigan for me to step back and say "something it ain't right, with this guy and his new supporters" and to really see things as to how they are.

After that long intro to the post I hope you are still with me. Because I have some eye opening things to share with you. It started with a link to an article that an annonymous reader sent to me. I will share some of the highlights with you on that, along with other articles I found that will make you want to just puke. I had started working on a post regarding the link that was sent to me and decided not to post it. But as time went on, I had been gathering other stuff and decided that now is the time to post these links, with the highlights from the articles. This is going to be long, but please, for the good of the country bear with me.
First up is this gem from Chuck Baldwin.

  • If the reader has not already done so, I again urge you to read the book, Hitler's Cross, which was written by Erwin Lutzer and published by Moody Press. This book should be "required reading" for every pastor and Christian layman in America. In his book, Lutzer focuses on the attitudes and actions of Germany's pastors and churches during the rise and reign of the Third Reich. It is a masterpiece.
  • For those of us living in a country and time far removed from Hitler's Germany, it is hard to comprehend how that nation's Christians — and especially its ministers — could have been so thoroughly taken in by old Adolf. We assume such an event could never happen again — especially to us. However, to any honest observer of history, the conditions of the Church in America today are eerily similar to those of the Church in Nazi Germany.
  • For one thing, as did the Church in Nazi Germany, the Church in America has become infatuated with Big Government. Historically, patriotism in the United States meant love for God, love for family, and love for freedom and independence. Today, however, Christians of all persuasions have come to accept and even embrace the Nanny State, complete with its intrinsic obsession with an omnipotent federal bureaucracy that exercises perpetual surveillance and absolute control over every area of our lives.
  • For example, according to today's Republican Presidential candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul), patriotism demands that we click our heels to the Department of Homeland Security and that we enthusiastically support aggressive, preemptive war. This is exactly the kind of redefinition of patriotism used so brilliantly by Hitler and his fellow propagandists. Yes, Martha, it appears that history really does repeat itself.
  • When Ron Paul was asked about Mike Huckabee's overt usage of a cross for a campaign advertisement, he quoted Sinclair Lewis as saying, "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Many Christians railed against Dr. Paul for making this comment. However, the truth is, Ron Paul (himself a committed Christian) is one hundred percent right! (To see how Hitler used this same tactic, I invite readers to note the photograph of the German Fuhrer in Lutzer's book, on page 75, which shows Hitler coming out of church with a large emblem of the Cross directly over his head. This photo was used extensively by Hitler during his political campaigns.)
  • More than any other Republican Presidential candidate, Mike Huckabee carries his Big Government machinations on a cross. I strongly recommend that readers take a look at Selwyn Duke's excellent exposé on Mike Huckabee at http://www.newswithviews.com/Duke/selwyn79.htm*
  • In his book, Lutzer notes that the tool Adolf Hitler used to ascend to power in Germany was his ability to wrap the Nazi flag around the Cross of Christ. In fact, Hitler often required that the Cross be emblazoned directly in the middle of the Nazi flag. These flags were not only prominently displayed in parades, but also in church auditoriums.

This sounds a lot like Mike's "constitutional statement" that I will soon be linking too.

  • Of course, there were a few in Germany who saw through Hitler's deception. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a Christian minister who actively opposed Hitler by organizing what he called the "Confessing Church." These were believers who would not surrender Christ's sphere of authority to Hitler. They saw through "Hitler's Cross." Unfortunately, of the more than 14,000 pastors in Germany, only 800 joined with Bonhoeffer.
  • In a previous column (See it here: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071207.html** ), I wrote this:
  • "Have you wondered why Mike Huckabee is suddenly getting so much favorable attention from the mainstream media (who themselves are controlled by this gaggle of global elite)? To find the answer as to why a professing pro-life, conservative Christian would suddenly become the darling of the media, look no further than the fact that just a couple of months ago, Mr. Huckabee appeared before the globalist-minded Council on Foreign Relations. (Read his speech here: http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/ ***) And when he did, it became abundantly clear that Huckabee was a man globalists could trust.
  • "By the way, as you read Huckabee's speech, you will find that he is George W. Bush on steroids! This is a man who intends to meddle in the affairs of nations around the world like you can't believe. Talk about entangling alliances: Huckabee intends for our State, Energy, Housing, Education, Justice, Treasury, and Transportation departments to spend untold billions of tax dollars on just about anything and everything, including schools, medical facilities, roads, sewage treatment, water filtration, electricity, and legal and banking systems in countries all over the globe. And that is exactly the kind of man the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) wants in Washington."
  • After reporting the connection between Mike Huckabee and the CFR, numerous Christians quickly consigned my soul to the regions of the damned and accused me of being a "nut." Some emphatically declared that I had no right to criticize "a Christian brother." Now, who does that sound like?

It was actually Mike Huckabee supporters like the ones that Mr. Baldwin mentioned that helped me to see the light about getting out while the getting was good.

  • We now learn that Mike Huckabee has named Richard Haass as his advisor on foreign policy. And just who is Richard Haass? He is the President of the CFR. And what does Haass believe? He believes that the United States (and every other country) must surrender its sovereignty to international or global entities. On February 21, 2006, Haass wrote a column for the Taipei Times entitled, "State Sovereignty Must be Altered in Globalized Era." This treatise is nothing more than an explicit solicitation for global government. (Read it here: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021**** )
  • These are the sentiments of the man that the "Christian conservative" Mike Huckabee has chosen to be his foreign policy advisor. Can you not see how, once again, a global government elitist wraps his Big Government ambitions around the Cross of Jesus Christ?
  • We desperately need Bonhoeffer's "Confessing Church" in America. If pastors do not quickly wake up to the way most of our politicians — even those who profess to be Christians — are selling out America's sovereignty and independence, our wonderful country will not long survive.

I truly encourage you to check out the whole article here. I also encourage you to check out the links the article provides. In fact I will give previews of those articles.

  • *There is a candidate in the presidential race who has a serious religion problem. No, it's not Mormon Mitt or recently-religious Rudy. It is Mike Huckabee.
    Just for the record, I share Huck's faith in Jesus Christ. Not only have I no problem with religion in public life, I also understand that one can't really separate a person's world view from his politics. The political is merely a reflection of the spiritual; our politics doesn't emerge in a vacuum.
    So what is my problem with Huck? Do I accuse him of false religiosity?
    No, what scares me is that his beliefs are all too real.
  • He would impose statism in the name of religion through government.
  • While Huck will say what you want to hear to win office, he will not hear what you want to say once there. He will make tone-deaf Bush seem like a maestro. How do I know this?
  • Huck invokes faith to justify ambitions ranging from the insidious to the idiotic. For the former, look no further than immigration, where Huck espoused the Christian principle, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you," while advocating an apparent open-door policy. This, despite the fact that if any good Christian were to find himself in a country illegally, he would expect its citizens to demand he return home.
  • Huck explicitly cited the same "Christian duty" when explaining a lenient attitude toward felons that would allow for twice as many pardons under his Arkansas administration as those of his last three predecessors combined. Among those pardoned was the notorious Wayne Dumond, a thug serving 25 years for raping a teenage high school cheerleader. But Dumond had no feeling of Christian duty. He then raped and murdered a woman named Carol Sue Shields.
    As for that ol' Huck sense of Christian duty, "Thou shalt not bear false witness" seems no more a part of it than does the imperative to protect the innocent. He denied playing a role in Dumond's pardon, but this is contradicted by the very man who had to sign the criminal's parole papers, one Ermer Pondexter. Said he,
    "I signed the [parole] papers because the governor wanted Dumond paroled."
  • But what will concern all families is Huck's philosophy on one of the biggest issues of our time, terrorism. He has some very definite ideas about thwarting it, and they're probably a bit different from yours. Said Huck,
    We must first destroy existing terrorist groups and then attack the underlying
    conditions that breed them: the lack of basic sanitation, health care,
    education, jobs, a free press, fair courts - which all translates into a lack of
    opportunity and hope. The United States' strategic interests as the world's most
    powerful country coincide with its moral obligations as the richest.
  • As for candidates, Huck is the only one who would bring not just missionary zeal to the White House, but missionary intentions. This makes him especially dangerous because, to use a variation on a famous Blaise Pascal line, men never grow government so completely and cheerfully as when they do it with religious conviction. [more here]
  • **These are people I have known most of my life. They are my friends. I have spoken at their gatherings and rallies, participated in their discussions, and prayed with them. Of course, I'm talking about the fine men and women who can be categorized as the Christian Right.
    On the whole, we share the same values and principles. We are pro-life; we stand for marriage as God defined it; we believe in the right to keep and bear arms; we support capital punishment (albeit I will be the first to admit that there are many inequities in the application of capital punishment that desperately need to be rectified); we believe children should have the right to pray in school; we believe former Alabama Chief Justice Roy S. Moore Jr. had every right to post the Ten Commandments in the Rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building, and before that, a plaque of the Ten Commandments in his Circuit Court building in Gadsden; and we believe in limited government. [more here]
  • ***Mike Huckabee's Speech on Foreign Policy
    Published September 28, 2007
    Former Governor Mike Huckabee's September 28, 2007 speech on foreign policy, delivered at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.
    “Saying American foreign policy needs a change in tone and attitude, or an opening up and a reaching out, is as obvious as saying O. J. Simpson might be having a bad month. This Administration’s bunker mentality has been counter-productive both at home and abroad. They have done as poor a job of communicating and consulting with other countries as they have with the American people. [more here]
  • ****State sovereignty must be altered in globalized eraIn the age of globalization, states should give up some sovereignty to world bodies in order to protect their own interests
    By Richard HaassTuesday, Feb 21, 2006, Page 9
    For 350 years, sovereignty -- the notion that states are the central actors on the world stage and that governments are essentially free to do what they want within their own territory but not within the territory of other states -- has provided the organizing principle of international relations. The time has come to rethink this notion.
    The world's 190-plus states now co-exist with a larger number of powerful non-sovereign and at least partly (and often largely) independent actors, ranging from corporations to non-governmental organizations (NGOs), from terrorist groups to drug cartels, from regional and global institutions to banks and private equity funds. The sovereign state is influenced by them (for better and for worse) as much as it is able to influence them. The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded.
    As a result, new mechanisms are needed for regional and global governance that include actors other than states. This is not to argue that Microsoft, Amnesty International, or Goldman Sachs be given seats in the UN General Assembly, but it does mean including representatives of such organizations in regional and global deliberations when they have the capacity to affect whether and how regional and global challenges are met. [more here]

I truly apologize for the length of this. I actually have more coming, but I need to rest my eyes and brain. As I am sure you also need to do the same.

22 comments:

Larry said...

It is sad that you have came full circle and are attacking Mike Huckabee this way. I realize you may not agree with him on certain issues and that is your right, but to compare him with someone like Hitler is absurd. I wish I could understand how someone who was so much for Huckabee can turn and be against him like you are. You are dredging up old issues that have already been dealt with. Some of them were silly when they were first brought up, like the "cross" you talk about, and they are even more silly now. If you want to disagree with Mike Huckabee, that is fine, but it is sad that you are attacking him in this way.

Michigan Redneck said...

I am not attacking Mike Huckabee, nor am I comparing him to Hitler. I am just posting about other articles that I have found. Articles that have given me a sickening sinking in my heart. I have read all the multiple articles that were linked to in the original article I posted.
I am saddened that there is no longer the Mike Huckabee that I supported from the beginning. Something happened to him on his way up. When I first supported him, he was very low in the polls. Since the beginning I wanted him to be in the position he is in now. But not this way.
Some, not all, of these Evangelicals who are supporting him are talking about "The Establishment" but they want to take over the party and have their own establishment. These are the people who are behind the push polling. If Mike Huckabee were to become president they will do all they can to push their way into the party and push out anyone who "isn't like them."
I desperately wish things weren't like this.

eternal said...

AMEN. Jesus told us to do everything. He never railed against the government. He went after his own.

This is one scary person.

MissouriMule said...

It is fascinating that you claim to have been a Huck supporter that now supports Thompson yet quotes articles and 'stuff' that only supports Ron Paul. Fascinating.? Then why do you support Fred instead of Ron Paul?
"For example, according to today's Republican Presidential candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul), patriotism demands that we click our heels to the Department of Homeland Security and that we enthusiastically support aggressive, preemptive war. This is exactly the kind of redefinition of patriotism used so brilliantly by Hitler and his fellow propagandists." Then why are you supporting a candidate that uses this Nazi propaganda tactic? Your words, not mine.

Michigan Redneck said...

Missouri,
I am usually fair here and allow most comments to post. But of the articles I posted about, only one mentions Ron Paul. And it is not pro or con for Ron Paul.
Where do you get off saying I support any candidate who uses nazi propaganda?

Larry said...

I do not understand how you can say Mike Huckabee has changed since you started supporting him. The same Mike Huckabee I support today is the same man that drew me to support him way back in the late summer of last year. His positions are the same and if people would look at his record and see the way he governed in Arkansas, they would realize he was the governor of all the people of the state, not just a select few.

Kathy, I can understand your disagreement with Huckabee over certain issues, that is your right. What I can not understand is the way you have seemingly turned on him with a vengeance.

Michigan Redneck said...

Larry,

I am not going after Mike Huckabee with a vengeance. I am not trying to hurt anyone. I am merely posting items and letting others make up their own minds.
As you know, blogging is a combo of posting on articles, hat tipping of other bloggers and adding opinions. Anyone who reads mine or your blog has any right to think any way they want on whatever they read.
When I first dropped my support of Mike Huckabee I wasn't going to post anything about him. But now I think people should be able to see what I am seeing.
BTW, what is the "restricted areas" that only "Huckabee Rangers" can view on his website?

Larry said...

The Huckabee Ranger area is like a Members Only place on the Huckabee website. It doesn't cost anything to join. I am a Ranger myself.

Michigan Redneck said...

I already have a Rangers Membership, from when I supported him, so I know it's free. But why would a candidate allow only "members" on certain pages? What is there on there that an i-net passerby can't see? Do they know when people log in?

Larry said...

I do not see any restricted areas on the Mike Huckabee website. Do you have a link?

Michigan Redneck said...

On the bottom left corner of his homepage on the website is a box that says Huckabee 101. At the top of that box is a "1, 2, 3" numbers to click. When you click on #3, the first sentence says, "My Huckabee members get exclusive access to restricted areas of the Huckabee website."

Anonymous said...

I support Huckabee, but if he ever really pushed for a North American Union I would drop him in a heartbeat. From what I have heard, he is not for it, and has been opposed to some of the stupid DHS schemes that rob American Citizens of their liberties. Make no mistake we need to be vigilant against globalization, but I don't see Huckabee as a cog in it. If anything, he has spoken out against NAFTA more than most.

Michigan Redneck said...

Did you perchance check out the links I provided? Does the fact that he gives criminals more credence over victims not bother you, just because "they found Jesus"? His past actions regarding immigration? The fact that he pandered to Evangelicals in Iowa and Michigan, basically ignoring everyone else? What about the fact that he whines that there is a "right wing conspiracy" against him? Sounds like a leader to me.

Larry said...

Kathy,
The only thing in the "Restricted" area you are talking about is the Ranger's Homepage. It gives a place to view your own profile, make comments, stuff like that. You have to sign in to it using your Ranger email address and password. There is nothing in there that should concern anyone. If you have a Ranger membership, you can sign in and see for yourself.

Winghunter said...

Find out their records and compare them to what they're saying today;

Candidate Research - Know Who You're Voting For ( The Easy Way ) http://tinyurl.com/2sowta

Michigan Redneck said...

Thank you for your comment. I checked out the link you gave. It is quite eye opening. Sadly, I don't the majority of Huck supporters will beleive any of it.

Larry said...

The items you keep bringing up have already been aired out and are old news. Mike Huckabee has already answered those questions to my satisfaction, along with a lot of other supporters.

More and more, I see in your posts and comments a bit of disgruntlement. I just can't figure out why you would be disgruntled with Mike Huckabee. You have went from supporting him whole heartedly to turning against him with everything you have and I can't figure out why. Disagree with him, if you will, but to turn on him the way you have is something else entirely.

Anonymous said...

First, let me share the facts:

**Democrat CFR member Candidates:**
Barack Obama: Also, his wife Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson

**Republican CFR member Candidates:**
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy. On Feb. 21, 2006, Hass wrote a column for the Taipei (China) Times titled, "State Sovereignty Must Be Altered in Globalized Era." This is an explicit solicitation for global government. Here is the article --http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021

So what is the "CFR" anyway?

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is David Rockefeller's private thinktank. This group has nothing to do with our government since it is entirely private. This group is pro-war and pro-North American Union (loss of American sovereignty and loss of Constitutional protections). You can read more about this group at --
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm

Here's a short video of a discussion between Dick Cheney (ex-director of CFR) and David Rockefeller, which reveals their close-knit ties --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg

Michigan Redneck said...

Larry,
It may be "old news" but it is more in depth. At first I used to just ignore and excuse what was out there. But I could no longer ignore it.
I have no disgruntlement towards anyone. Disapointment, yes. I am not turning on anyone. I am just pointing out what is out there.

Fleeting_Thoughts said...

Enjoyed your post. Very interesting, it was thoughtful and provided a different perspective from my own. Huckabee appeals to two types of voters; those that listen to his band music and the Fair Tax group.

The problem is that with a downturning economy, Huckabee scares economic conservatives. He talks about firing the 150,000 IRS employees in one swipe. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of small businesses providing tax services. The USA only created 43,000 jobs in November of 2007. Huckabee fails to mention the 23% consumption tax on everything you buy. That includes healthcare. Can you afford a 23% increase in your healthcare?
His reason for supporting the so called “Fair” tax is that it would bring the “bad folks” into the system. The issue there is that the “bad folks” are a tiny percentage of the US population and the middle class will actually pick up the burden.
Look, I am a student with student loans, three kids and a wife, I pay an effective tax rate of 7%! Huckabee would give me a 15% tax increase - I cannot afford that. Finally, economists estimate the “Fair Tax” would need to be closer to 50% in order to remain revenue neutral!!!
Just imagine the black market that will kick up in the US of A. A vote for Huckabee is a vote to put 150,000 people out of jobs right off the bat. That’s a big NO for me. Huckabee is not the responsible choice for economic conservatives.

Michigan Redneck said...

Thank you, Fleeting, for your comment. Let's not forget those that think social and religion issues are THEE thing that matters. Come on, we aren't electing a daddy. Most of us already have one of those.

Anonymous said...

In some strange way, Mike Huckabee looks kind of like Hitler just without the moustache.